Comments on: Bobby Bowden Is Pathetic? Penn State Blogger Gets It All Wrong

By: Tims_a_Nole

Tims_a_Nole — Wed, 26 Aug 2009 01:37:56 +0000

The NCAA bylaws clearly state that a player “FOUND TO BE IN VIOLATION OF THIS BYLAW ARE INELIGIBLE FOR FURTHER PLAY”. FSU followed this guideline, ruled the players ineligible and the participated in no further games until they were reinstated by the NCAA and had completed the required suspensions.

everyone wants to sit back and rip FSU over this issue..I guess it will be interesting to see how you react when some kid that plays for your school violates a NCAA bylaw and the NCAA decides that the player was ineligible from the moment of the act and strips your team of victories. Do you realize that an act in High School could do this? If the NCAA stays the course on this one then be ready for the rewrite of NCAA records every year.

If the NCAA desires that a SA is ineligible from the moment of the act then they need to rewrite the rules to clearly state this…and see if it gets passed.

By: JIMPSU

JIMPSU — Sat, 16 May 2009 22:54:26 +0000

The Oklahoma situation did not involve academic fraud. It was 2 players who accepted no show jobs at a local car dealership. The NCAA rightfully looked on the academic scandal more seriously, and said so in their report.

By: NoleCC

NoleCC — Sat, 16 May 2009 11:37:09 +0000

@16

Thank you sir! I always try to spread some level headed Nole goodwill when I visit another site. I’ll stop in, BSD looks like it has quite the fun community over there.

By: psuphiman80

psuphiman80 — Sat, 16 May 2009 00:54:38 +0000

Sir

I apologize for the insult I hurled at you over at BSD. You turned out to be freakin’ awesome. I hope you’re not a stranger in the future.

+1000 cocktails to you

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Fri, 15 May 2009 18:40:49 +0000

“The players didnâ€™t do something on the field that gave them an advantage, it wasnâ€™t a case of enhancement there.”

So being able to spend more time in the playbook and less time in the textbook because you are provided the answers to your evaluations isn’t a competitive advantage?

Maybe PSU fans don’t get it then…to me that’s a clear advantage.

By: NoleCC

NoleCC — Wed, 13 May 2009 20:12:22 +0000

My point about OU is less about how many cheated and more about how the NCAA handles itself and the procedures it’s going through with FSU. I don’t debate that FSU problem was major, and that it needed major correction, nor do I intend to imply that every other school out there has a problem like FSU had in that one class.

@13… Joe will take the title, I have no doubts about it and couldn’t care less. Great for him and Penn State, and if Bobby somehow pulls it out of his ass then great for him and the Noles.

By: smashtheguitar

smashtheguitar — Wed, 13 May 2009 19:55:03 +0000

Yeah, I’m not a fan of the “but every school cheats and they just didn’t get caught!” argument. Whatever the percentage of schools it is that is doing this, this argument is just a cop out. If you get caught, you should be punished (even if you’re USC).

While I don’t particularly agree with Bowden’s Samford wins, I don’t want JoePa to take the record and have Bowden and FSU fans complain for the rest of their lives that Bowden was cheated. Unless FSU starts playing like gods or JoePa’s health finally takes a turn for the worse, Joe will be around for another 3 seasons and Bobby won’t. Joe will take this title, and it will be legit.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Wed, 13 May 2009 19:43:41 +0000

It appears to be even more naive to assume all schools systemically cheat. As you point out, OU had one player caught. That is a far cry from the 61 “student athletes” that cheated with the aid of school personal. It is ridiculous to even suggest that all schools do this (institutional supported cheating) and that they are just “lucky” to not be caught. Cheating to some degree may happen everywhere sometimes. The FSU case goes far beyond what could even be considered the background rate of academic cheating.

By: NoleCC

NoleCC — Wed, 13 May 2009 19:31:05 +0000

That would have been better than a Mick Foley / Undertaker Hell In A Cell match Jordi. lol.

By: Jordi

Jordi — Wed, 13 May 2009 19:29:39 +0000

If the losing coach of the FSU vs Penn State bowl game a few years ago was forced to retire, as I suggested, we wouldn’t be having this conversation.

Hey, I thought it was a great idea. Maybe I watch too much pro wrestling.