Comments on: Florida State’s Bobby Bowden: Coaching Genius Or Not? http://www.scalpem.com/blog/2008/07/29/florida-states-bobby-bowden-coaching-genius-or-not/ Florida State Seminoles Sports Blog And Photo Album Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:18:15 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: NoleCC http://www.scalpem.com/blog/2008/07/29/florida-states-bobby-bowden-coaching-genius-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-32600 NoleCC Fri, 06 Feb 2009 14:42:13 +0000 http://www.scalpem.com/blog/2008/07/29/florida-states-bobby-bowden-coaching-genius-or-not/#comment-32600 Success and genius are two different things kc5, that's why I posed the question. It has nothing to do with being a fan of the team or of Bowden. Success and genius are two different things kc5, that’s why I posed the question. It has nothing to do with being a fan of the team or of Bowden.

]]> By: kc5nole http://www.scalpem.com/blog/2008/07/29/florida-states-bobby-bowden-coaching-genius-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-32598 kc5nole Fri, 06 Feb 2009 13:06:12 +0000 http://www.scalpem.com/blog/2008/07/29/florida-states-bobby-bowden-coaching-genius-or-not/#comment-32598 I agree with you Rico, regarding JB. But my theory is, a coach is only as good as his players are able to perform. If players cannot execute certain plays, then a coach is limited as to what he can call. Furthermore, how many of those losses (during JB's era) could have been wins had it not been for one or two plays. Yes, there seemed to be some tendencies for conservative play, but can you blame him with a QB who was hit or miss? We are a spoiled group of fans. As for Bobby, I can't believe we are discussing whether or not he's a genius? Just look at the number of winning seasons. Then let's count the number of programs that have had the same results under the same coach in a similar tenure, not very many. It seems that Bobby gets more respect from players and coaches then he does from some fans. Stop whining about whether or not he's a genius, and start showing some real appreciation for what he has done for Seminole football. I agree with you Rico, regarding JB. But my theory is, a coach is only as good as his players are able to perform. If players cannot execute certain plays, then a coach is limited as to what he can call. Furthermore, how many of those losses (during JB’s era) could have been wins had it not been for one or two plays. Yes, there seemed to be some tendencies for conservative play, but can you blame him with a QB who was hit or miss? We are a spoiled group of fans. As for Bobby, I can’t believe we are discussing whether or not he’s a genius? Just look at the number of winning seasons. Then let’s count the number of programs that have had the same results under the same coach in a similar tenure, not very many. It seems that Bobby gets more respect from players and coaches then he does from some fans. Stop whining about whether or not he’s a genius, and start showing some real appreciation for what he has done for Seminole football.

]]> By: JT in Texas http://www.scalpem.com/blog/2008/07/29/florida-states-bobby-bowden-coaching-genius-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-32270 JT in Texas Sat, 06 Dec 2008 14:45:29 +0000 http://www.scalpem.com/blog/2008/07/29/florida-states-bobby-bowden-coaching-genius-or-not/#comment-32270 Your question genious! Bobby would not call himself a genious. This debet will be going on long after Bobby is gone, reason why. "Jimbo" is getting on the job training right now. The wins are going on Bobby's record, but so are the losses! Bobby is looking at the future of the FSU program and the University. When Jimbo takes official control, let's say he has a season such as "Saben" has had this year, everyone will say, FSU should have made this change years ago; ( Most first time head coaches fail ) Some will look back and say how smart he was for setting up the change this way; Thus genious. If it fails, everyone will say how dumb it was to do it this way, Thus not genious! I believe we should all just be thankful that we were blessed to have such a man touch so many lives, genious or not! Your question genious! Bobby would not call himself a genious. This debet will be going on long after Bobby is gone, reason why. “Jimbo” is getting on the job training right now. The wins are going on Bobby’s record, but so are the losses! Bobby is looking at the future of the FSU program and the University. When Jimbo takes official control, let’s say he has a season such as “Saben” has had this year, everyone will say, FSU should have made this change years ago; ( Most first time head coaches fail ) Some will look back and say how smart he was for setting up the change this way; Thus genious. If it fails, everyone will say how dumb it was to do it this way, Thus not genious! I believe we should all just be thankful that we were blessed to have such a man touch so many lives, genious or not!

]]> By: kevdognoles http://www.scalpem.com/blog/2008/07/29/florida-states-bobby-bowden-coaching-genius-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-31067 kevdognoles Fri, 05 Sep 2008 03:33:25 +0000 http://www.scalpem.com/blog/2008/07/29/florida-states-bobby-bowden-coaching-genius-or-not/#comment-31067 bowden=god bowden=god

]]> By: ricowade80 http://www.scalpem.com/blog/2008/07/29/florida-states-bobby-bowden-coaching-genius-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-31009 ricowade80 Fri, 29 Aug 2008 22:50:24 +0000 http://www.scalpem.com/blog/2008/07/29/florida-states-bobby-bowden-coaching-genius-or-not/#comment-31009 Oh, I know I may get black balled for this comment but JB wasnt horrible at FSU, Look at the Emerald Bowl and the numbers he put in that game and also the sugar bowl when we lost to georgia, we had a nice plan but when ur starting qb is suspended and u have to move a reciver to qb what do u expect. Oh, I know I may get black balled for this comment but JB wasnt horrible at FSU, Look at the Emerald Bowl and the numbers he put in that game and also the sugar bowl when we lost to georgia, we had a nice plan but when ur starting qb is suspended and u have to move a reciver to qb what do u expect.

]]> By: ricowade80 http://www.scalpem.com/blog/2008/07/29/florida-states-bobby-bowden-coaching-genius-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-31008 ricowade80 Fri, 29 Aug 2008 22:46:21 +0000 http://www.scalpem.com/blog/2008/07/29/florida-states-bobby-bowden-coaching-genius-or-not/#comment-31008 We sit and wonder if a coach is a genius or not? That is a phrase often over used like " Put your game Face on" or "Swagger". Every coach has a mind and he has to know how to use it. A coach can be given all the talent in the world but if you dont know how to use it then whats the point. With assistant coaches, as a head coach you have to be able to sit and recognize what it is that works and also if this person can make it work. We have had some good OC come through and MR is having success at georgia but it wasnt like georgia was exactly hurting before he got there. He came into a good situation where all it took was proper placement and thought of your personel. Bobby Bowden is not a genius of a coach but he is one hell of a evaluator of talent. Now, I know that last statment has the potential to blow up in my face but hear me out first. Lets look at the QBs that have come through after CW. Rix, wasnt a leader but was more than capable of playing the position. As a quarteback u have to see things and you have to be able to judge and obviously that is something that no OC can make up for. Adrain Mcpherson came in and played well in his brief starts but he was long gone before we could ever see what he was made of. He is no genius but really what head coach is at the collegiate level? Is pete carroll a coaching genius or having norm chow and players like bush, leinart, palmer, white, williams are just mere shades of luck? We sit and wonder if a coach is a genius or not? That is a phrase often over used like ” Put your game Face on” or “Swagger”. Every coach has a mind and he has to know how to use it. A coach can be given all the talent in the world but if you dont know how to use it then whats the point. With assistant coaches, as a head coach you have to be able to sit and recognize what it is that works and also if this person can make it work. We have had some good OC come through and MR is having success at georgia but it wasnt like georgia was exactly hurting before he got there. He came into a good situation where all it took was proper placement and thought of your personel. Bobby Bowden is not a genius of a coach but he is one hell of a evaluator of talent. Now, I know that last statment has the potential to blow up in my face but hear me out first. Lets look at the QBs that have come through after CW. Rix, wasnt a leader but was more than capable of playing the position. As a quarteback u have to see things and you have to be able to judge and obviously that is something that no OC can make up for. Adrain Mcpherson came in and played well in his brief starts but he was long gone before we could ever see what he was made of. He is no genius but really what head coach is at the collegiate level? Is pete carroll a coaching genius or having norm chow and players like bush, leinart, palmer, white, williams are just mere shades of luck?

]]> By: g http://www.scalpem.com/blog/2008/07/29/florida-states-bobby-bowden-coaching-genius-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-30807 g Sat, 02 Aug 2008 01:02:28 +0000 http://www.scalpem.com/blog/2008/07/29/florida-states-bobby-bowden-coaching-genius-or-not/#comment-30807 Ooooooooooooooooooooh, I thought JB got his playbook from Pong. Ooooooooooooooooooooh, I thought JB got his playbook from Pong.

]]> By: Randy http://www.scalpem.com/blog/2008/07/29/florida-states-bobby-bowden-coaching-genius-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-30800 Randy Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:06:43 +0000 http://www.scalpem.com/blog/2008/07/29/florida-states-bobby-bowden-coaching-genius-or-not/#comment-30800 That would explain the constant use of the Statue of Liberty play. That would explain the constant use of the Statue of Liberty play.

]]> By: NoleCC http://www.scalpem.com/blog/2008/07/29/florida-states-bobby-bowden-coaching-genius-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-30799 NoleCC Thu, 31 Jul 2008 01:52:20 +0000 http://www.scalpem.com/blog/2008/07/29/florida-states-bobby-bowden-coaching-genius-or-not/#comment-30799 Good comments all around! Anon #3774383 thanks for correcting me, you've exposed me as a fraud. Hahaha. Good to know about McDuffy and Eason, I guess the main point is still the same even though I blew the names. Randy... wouldn't it be more like Tecmo Bowl for a child like Jeffery? :) Good comments all around! Anon #3774383 thanks for correcting me, you’ve exposed me as a fraud. Hahaha. Good to know about McDuffy and Eason, I guess the main point is still the same even though I blew the names.

Randy… wouldn’t it be more like Tecmo Bowl for a child like Jeffery? :)

]]> By: Randy http://www.scalpem.com/blog/2008/07/29/florida-states-bobby-bowden-coaching-genius-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-30797 Randy Thu, 31 Jul 2008 00:16:23 +0000 http://www.scalpem.com/blog/2008/07/29/florida-states-bobby-bowden-coaching-genius-or-not/#comment-30797 You're all wrong, it was actually Jeff as a teenager, getting plays from the old EA College Fottball pn the PS1. Who knew all these years later hitting X all the time woouldn't work? You’re all wrong, it was actually Jeff as a teenager, getting plays from the old EA College Fottball pn the PS1. Who knew all these years later hitting X all the time woouldn’t work?

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